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overated/underrated pokemon
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mudkipman
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I just thought of another one!
Exploud. No body uses these things on netbattle, but they have the stats and movepool to sweep! Also, they own skarm and pwn Bliss, what is better?
And I find it strange you think kyogre is a waste of time, when the majority of netbattlers feel it is the epitome of uber. Not saying anything bad on you silver, but I just find it interesting.
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Sacred_Latios
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Overrated
Salamence. Way overrated.
Charizard. There are better Fire/Flying to use.
Underrated
Ho-oh. Its movepool was so wide, its main weakness is four moveslots.
Altaria. This dragon can Heal Bell, Safeguard, Ice Beam and Flamethrower too. Plus, its really cute.
Dragonite. Sure, its Attack may lose to Salamence's by two points, but this guy gets Focus Punch and Surf.
Tyranitar. People think its only purpose is to kill Shedinja. So if Shedinja's away, so is Tyranitar.
Cacturne. If you abuse it correctly, not even Wobbuffet can defeat it.
Ampharos. Try giving it Reflect, HP Ice, ThunderBolt and Fire Punch. Lanturn is the only problem now.
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Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:35 pm |
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goldenquagsire
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Some more Pokemon.
Over-rated
Wobbufet - Sure, Counter and Mirror Coat own, but when you bring Toxic or Leech Seed into play... I've defeated many a Wobbufet in the Battle Factory simply by unleashing a Toxic against it, and then doing nothing for a few turns. Heh.
Endure/Reversal Pokemon - BRILLIANT! Sub or Endure until 1HP, have a Salac Berry handy, then kill everything! Wait... HOLY CRAP, IT'S GENGAR!
Under-rated
Beedrill - Okay, he's pathetic at Level 100, but for the first few Gyms in RBYGSCFYLG, he's one of the most versatile and strong physical sweepers. Poison Sting, Fury Attack, Twinneedle and Focus Energy have won quite a few battles on FireRed.
Butterfree - See Beedrill. Scarily good for a while. The Powders work well, and Confusion is powerful. Sadly, this guy looses his momentum after about level 25.
Absol - *sigh* Such a small movepool... DP hopefully will provide a use for the best looking Dark-type ever.
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Shadow Rider
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I absolutly love to yues absol w/ arial ace, shadow ball, crunch, and icebeam
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Kyge_the_kyogre
Psychic Trainer
Joined: Mon Nov 20, 2006 7:58 pm Posts: 80 Location: Im dancing like a monkey!
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Over rated: Blaziken (I was playing Saphire, and Glacia's Walrein totaly Wooped me. I didn't even want to pick Torchic, I just wanted to see if it was any good.
Pikachu: I don't own one!
Under rated: Sableye. They have NO WEAKNESSES. Nice moveset. It looks neat. Clamperl After a lot of leveling up, It can be pretty good.
Tentacruel. It and Starmie can OWN. And Starmie.
And fineally... The grass starters and there evos! They are awsome!
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Fri Dec 08, 2006 5:08 pm |
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Jamie
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Joined: Sun Nov 26, 2006 5:42 pm Posts: 516 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Underrated are a lot of Pokemon from the first generation. There are a lot of really good, but very unpopular Pokemon.
Like, Primape.
Probably really good, but come on, who uses Primape?
I love Sandshrew.
Diglett is underrated. I love Digglet.
And... Charizard is overrated.
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Fri Dec 08, 2006 6:24 pm |
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Vulpine
Pokemon Ranger
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This thread is great!
Over-Rated
Blaziken-He's so UGLY! He looks like a woman & a man stuck together!
Charizard-There are better fire types IMO...
Kyogre-Ugly & cheap.
Houndoom-Please, have you seen his defensive stats?
Chansey/Blissey-HP high=good, Other stats low? BAD!
Under-Rated
Rapidash-No, seriously, get an Adament one. It kicks butt!
Vileplume-Good stats, good moves.
Crobat- Same a Vileplume.
Quaggy-High HP, Attack, & Defense.
Medicham-Pure Power. Enough said
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Mon Dec 11, 2006 1:04 am |
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comcast
Psychic Trainer
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OVER-RATED
Blissey - Not very good stats other than HP
UNDER_RATED
Sableye - I must agree, it dosen't have any weakness so it is great.
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Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:56 am |
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The Obsidian Wolf
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comcast wrote: OVER-RATED
Blissey - Not very good stats other than HP
UNDER_RATED
Sableye - I must agree, it dosen't have any weakness so it is great.
However, stats must be taken into account. It wouldn't suprise me if a Magikraps's Tackle took it out!! (or splash, but whatever...)
I have another underatted one - Castform -
I love Castform!!
It is the perfect support Pokemon. Sets up a nice little weather effect, lets your other Pokemon sweep. Sweet! However, I would prefer a speedy one. The good thing about them also is the fact that the opponent can only predict what weather effect you will be choosing depending on your other pokemon, for example:
You have a Castform and a Ludicolo.
They know of Ludicolo's Rain Dish trait, switch out to a Thunder Dancer (Starmie?) so they can Thunder your future Water Castform away. However, Starmie comes out, Castform uses Sunny Day, Ludicolo hits Starmie with an EVed and Natured Solarbeam and POW!
As I said, I love Castform.
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Mon Dec 11, 2006 9:15 am |
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Silver
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mudkipman wrote: I just thought of another one!
Exploud. No body uses these things on netbattle, but they have the stats and movepool to sweep! Also, they own skarm and pwn Bliss, what is better?
And I find it strange you think kyogre is a waste of time, when the majority of netbattlers feel it is the epitome of uber. Not saying anything bad on you silver, but I just find it interesting. Yeah i feel that way about Kyogre because i never beat Sapphire Kyoge always gets killed i Tried with Skarmory and got killed By Sidney and Blissey i feel just sucks
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Sat Dec 16, 2006 8:08 am |
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matt252007
Bug Catcher
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I totally agree that all people who proclaim Pikachu's greatness should be shot.
Blisseys...I always kind of chuckle when those come out...they never last long.
I think that Crobats are VERY underrated however. Being as quick as a hiccup, able to confuse, having the ability to poison with Sludge Bomb, having a good attack, and the ability to never miss with Aerial Ace makes Crobat a great choice in single battles as well as double battles.
Swamperts are also underrated in my opinion. It may not be super fast, but that's tolerated with other pokemon...why not swampert? Electrics are owned by them and they have a great defense against ice-types known as Ice Beam.
Swampert and Crobat made a very nice opening team in two-on-two battles.
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Sat Dec 16, 2006 8:44 pm |
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AABM
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Obsidian wrote: I have another underatted one - Castform - 
<font color="999999">Seriously, I agree with yo, my friend; Castform´s a plain good supporting Pokémon (despite the fact that she doesn´t learn Helping Hand, but meh), however I think of having one of those in my team until I look at its base stats... they just... don´t convince me, but I do know haw useful it can be, specially when it comes to SunnyBeamers and ThunderDancers (though Castform can use both tactics!!)
And about Blissey... what´s with her? why does (almost) everyone hates Blissey?! I have one, and I have pwned Frontier Brains with her (along with her friends, Flygon and Salamence)
Oh! also... I see that  is kind of underated also.
probably because I don´t see him around so often, like Salamence (bleh sometimes), Metagross or even Skarmory.
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Sun Dec 17, 2006 9:45 am |
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mudkipman
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And about Blissey... what´s with her? why does (almost) everyone hates Blissey?
well, Blissey is one of those pokemon that you just have to know how to use I think, you can't catch one, and automatically be good with it, you have to practice. Also, Blissey isn't considered all that great in-game.
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Sun Dec 17, 2006 12:59 pm |
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Rhapsody
Gym Leader
Joined: Wed Aug 31, 2005 4:37 pm Posts: 1906 Location: Some fabulous place
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I've never understood why nobody really uses Flygon. I mean, it looks cute, it can learn Rock Slide like Salamence, and it gets STAB'd Earthquake. Okay, so its Speed and Attack are slightly above average, at best. Guess what? Your little Salamence has the same speed. And while it (Salamence) has greater Attack, power does not nessecarily equal win.
Oh, and according to my friend, Flygon is my uncle.
Another pokemon I would consider being UU (without looking at tiers, I don't care much for the metagame) would be Arbok. Sure, none of its stats discluding Hp get above 300. But as I mentioned earlier, power does not equal victory. It learns a lot of good moves (and improves for DP since Crunch becomes Physical). I don't just randomly go "OMG Salamence is teh shiz it killz I use it!", I play with favorites and work from there.
I'm not going to start on OU Pokemon, I don't feel like it. I just wanted to name two examples of what I think are good-but-unused Pokemon.
-Gardevoir~
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Sun Dec 17, 2006 4:34 pm |
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Silver
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Joined: Thu Nov 23, 2006 3:19 am Posts: 403 Location: Pallet Town (Kanto)
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I thought of some more
Overatted
 the only good about mew is it can learn any move
 it has low stats except for sp.atk
 Latias movepool sucks except for psycic
 its bandwagon is almost all gone now
Underatted
 a killer when facing the Elite 4
 everyone downs rayquaza but i beleive its the best ledgendary
 good statsand and good movepool
 okay it doesnt good speed and Specials but excellent movepool
 extremely high defense so it can with its pysical weakness like earthquake
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Sat Dec 30, 2006 4:09 am |
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R-cubed
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Under rated pokemon:
 : it just sux I know why nobody uses it
 : It's okay but I have never used it
{kanghaskan}: It's really cool looking and I used to use one and it is effective
 : Weezing is good it took out my rival's Blastoise in the elite 4 at level 48
Over rated pokemon:
Every legendary and Starters.
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Sat Dec 30, 2006 9:08 am |
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Gnaaye
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Crobat is way underrated. Oh, c'mon, a PKMN that gets deadly Toxic-Confuse Ray-Mean Look combo, and it has 120 BASE SPEED AND 90 BASE ATTACK !!! That means it's attack and speed is higher than stinky, underrated Skarms.
PS: Sorry if I'm rude, they are just my thoughts...
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Thu Jan 04, 2007 9:16 am |
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AABM
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<font color="999999">Underated:
It´s so BIG and so STUPID and it doesn´t look like you.
It is no good eighter way, a Maril´s Water Gun or an Oddish´s Absorb can take it away
Overated:
Every single Legendary pkmn in this freaking world is overated! and also some starters...  ,  ,  ,  ,  ,  ...
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Fri Jan 05, 2007 12:35 pm |
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Shadow Rider
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Deffinision of underrated: see undervalue: to value, rate, or estimate below the real worth (from Merriam-Webster)
If Vilaplume, Ryhorn, ect. is underrated than why dose nobody use it?
If something is underrated, you WANT to use it.
 Some people just don't understand. 
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Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:50 pm |
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Frost
THE POWER IS ON!
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This thread makes me lol hard, especially all the people who say Skarmory and Blissey are "overrated" when OU Netbattle teams are built AROUND those two Pokemon, and especially these lines in particular:
Silver wrote:
 it has low stats except for sp.atk
And that's why all of Celebi's stats are equal?
R-cubed wrote:
Under rated pokemon:  : it just sux I know why nobody uses it
Then why is it underrated?
R-cubed wrote: Under rated pokemon: 
Underrated? That must be why it's one of the most overused Pokemon in the RS metagame.
Miasma wrote: *Chansey/Blissey- Completely overrated. Seriously, I remember the first time that I'd ever used a Chansey in battle. I was in Kanto after beating the Elite Four in Crystal version, and I'd spent the better part of an hour running around the tall grass near Silence Bridge until the plushy magenta bean bag finally appeared on my screen. I threw a small Apricorn orchard's worth of Friend Balls at the stupid thing, thinking "Duh, super high HP PWNS!!!11!!" like the fool that I am sometimes, and after a mind numbing five or six minutes, I caught it. Next, I went proudly to Mt. Silver to train it, where I was terribly thrashed time and again by wild Pokemon. Eventually I decided to just switch it out with Pidgeot in every battle until it bummed enough Exp. points to evolve. It did...and it still sucked. That whole experience turned me off of the Chansey family. You have to work so freakin' hard to get one, and the stupid thing can't even handle a few wild Rapidash without going hardboiled. What a waste of game time! My suggestion is to wait until you need Chansey to complete the Pokedex, but when it comes to battle, leave it where it belongs: the trash.
That just cracked me up due to its sheer idiocy.
goldenquagsire wrote: Blissey - Great stuff, until you realise that its only offensive capability is Seismic Toss. Then your physical sweeper comes along and ruins the stupid pink blob.
Seriously, do you guys know anything about strategy? If a physical sweeper enters the battlefield, you switch Blissey out. And also, Blissey can use Ice Beam. A lot of people use Ice Beam on Blissey now, actually.
Sacred_Latios wrote: Charizard. There are better Fire/Flying to use.
Moltres the useless rubber chicken, I assume? Or Ho-Oh, who isn't even allowed in competitive play?
Kyge_the_Kyogre wrote: Under rated: Sableye. They have NO WEAKNESSES. Nice moveset. It looks neat.
It also has the statistics of a half-eaten pickle.
Anybody who said that Blissey's only good stat was HP, when it has a max Special Def. of like 350 or something, also made me laugh out loud. Ungodly HP and SD is all Blissey really needs, and she can still survive a LOT of physical attacks for having the Defense of a wet paper towel. With the right EVs, you can also make Blissey's SA high enough to support one offensive move.
Also:
-Flygon is not underrated.
-Rhydon is not underrated.
-Pikachu is not overrated, much less used by serious battlers at all.
-A lot of you don't even know the proper meanings of the words "overrated" and "underrated."
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Fri Jan 12, 2007 5:23 am |
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garabato
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Silver wrote:
Quote:  Latias movepool sucks except for psycic
What ???????????????????????
Latias is one of the pokemon with bigest "optional moveset avaliable"
Offensive: Surf, phsychic, ice beam, thunder, thunderbolt, solarbeam, dragon claw, etc.
Support: Calm mind, recover, charm, light screen, reflect, thunderwave, rain dance, safeguard, wish, helping hand.
Soul deu or not this pokemon is uber, taking acount her type combination, moveset and trait, it doesnt deserves to be overatted.
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Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:37 am |
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goldenquagsire
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Frost wrote: goldenquagsire wrote: Blissey - Great stuff, until you realise that its only offensive capability is Seismic Toss. Then your physical sweeper comes along and ruins the stupid pink blob.
Seriously, do you guys know anything about strategy? If a physical sweeper enters the battlefield, you switch Blissey out. And also, Blissey can use Ice Beam. A lot of people use Ice Beam on Blissey now, actually.
I'm talking about in-game, specifically the Battle Frontier, where the three-Pokemon limit renders switching a little pointless.
Besides, what if the opponent has set up a Mean Look, or you face a n00b with a Wobbuffet?
And what you said about the whole Skarm-Bliss thing - Notice a pattern with what we're saying? Skarm-Bliss does not work in-game, which is what I am talking about (I don't honestly care for the Metagame). Sure, maybe in Netbattle they are awesome, but Netbattle isn't everything.
Finally, I assume this thread means "opinion-based rating", so that's why Charizard and Pikachu appear on the list. Fine, fine, I might be wrong, but that's why I put Pikachu on the list. Also, to back up my claim, there aren't "over-rated" or "under-rated" Pokemon in Netbattle, to my knowledge.
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Fri Jan 12, 2007 11:54 am |
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garabato
Illiterate
Joined: Tue Nov 21, 2006 5:00 pm Posts: 261 Location: Columbia
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Goldenquagsire wrote:
Quote: And what you said about the whole Skarm-Bliss thing - Notice a pattern with what we're saying? Skarm-Bliss does not work in-game, which is what I am talking about
Probably doesnt work for you because you dont know how to use it properly.
 140 defence base stat. No physical weakness, many physical resistances and inmunities (ground, poison, steel, ghost, bug, flying,normal). Simple: Best physical wall
 135 Specialdefence base stat, 255 base HP stat. No special weakness. Simple: Best special wall
You have to be blind for not to see the point behind this, just switch blissey against a special sweeper and skarmony against a physical one.
About your mean look complain, how many pokemon actually uses it in the battle frontier? perhasp  ?
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Fri Jan 12, 2007 3:11 pm |
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Abou222
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I know blazikens move may be awesome but look oin the other side one super effectice move and it's dead.
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Mon Jan 15, 2007 2:53 pm |
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mudkipman
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Joined: Sat May 27, 2006 1:26 am Posts: 389 Location: Hiding behind a rock 'cuz you're ugly
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In reply to GoldenQuagsire (I don't think I need to quote his entire paragraph and Frost's)
If you are facing someone with a Wobuffet in game, it will give you the option to switch before wobuffet comes into play.
Also, I would just like to clear up that over-rated means that people think they are better then they really are, and under-rated means that they are better than people don't give them credit for how good they are.
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