Is Palkia better than Darkrai? I'd pick Palkia because I'd beat my friend's Darkrai by giving my Palkia a chesto berry and using aura sphere for a one hit KO.
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| Author: | Cactuar [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:41 am ] |
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Is Palkia better than Darkrai? I'd pick Palkia because I'd beat my friend's Darkrai by giving my Palkia a chesto berry and using aura sphere for a one hit KO.
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| Author: | Bushin [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Palkia or Darkrai? |
Ewwwww... Ubers... |
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| Author: | Prof. Dom [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Palkia or Darkrai? |
I suspect your battle was based mostly on who handled it better, so that really is irellevant. Based purely on highest base stats I'd say Palkia. lol Bushin. |
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| Author: | Sapphirath [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Palkia or Darkrai? |
Darkrai is definitely better. Why? All it has to do is Dark Hall, and Double Team away. Or it uses Dark hall, and slowly owns you from there. Stats don't matter here. Imbaness does. Darkrai is a lot faster than Palkia. As long as it doesn't miss with its Dark Hall, Palkia's done for...so are many other Ubers. You can use a Chesto berry, but Darkrai can always hold a Chople berry to save itself from Aure Sphere.
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| Author: | Roar Of Time [ Sat Jun 07, 2008 5:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Palkia or Darkrai? |
It depends. Darkrai can do different apart from Palkia. e.g. Palkia can run a Cb set, or a Bulk Up set, it has better attack and sp atk than Darkrai. Whereas Darkrai has faster speed and Taunt and other moves that separte it from Palkia. It also depends on your team |
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| Author: | NintendoWarrior [ Sun Jun 08, 2008 11:06 am ] |
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Well I personnaly prefer Palkia but I would say Darkrai is better moves and stats wise |
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| Author: | Gothic Gardevoir [ Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:49 am ] |
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I honestly do not know; Darkrai is uber and actually owned my Palkia (who has a type advantage,) but the guy got lucky since Dark Void has 80% accuracy. It all depends on what happens in the battle. as for looks I cannot decide on that as well... Both look awesome |
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| Author: | haga11111 [ Fri Jun 13, 2008 9:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Palkia or Darkrai? |
I don't like using ubers, so since Palkia is less of an uber, Palkia. Heck, after deciding I wouldn't hack to get Pokemon anymore, I ran from the Darkrai on newmoon island. |
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| Author: | pwinage5742 [ Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Palkia or Darkrai? |
ill catch ubers, but then never use them again. i say darkrai though. |
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| Author: | thresholder2013 [ Mon Jun 16, 2008 11:20 am ] |
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Palkia is way better like you said all you need is a chesto berry and use aura spere for the one hit K.O. |
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| Author: | Snorelax [ Wed Jun 18, 2008 10:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Palkia or Darkrai? |
Well it depends: are you talking about favorites cuz then I chose Darkrai. If not then I chose Niether: Dialga can pwn them all! |
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| Author: | haga11111 [ Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Palkia or Darkrai? |
Snorelax wrote: Well it depends: are you talking about favorites cuz then I chose Darkrai. If not then I chose Niether: Dialga can pwn them all! Person 1: How's this? 
-Will-o-Wisp -T-Bolt -Night Shade -Shadow Ball I just want to know if this is a good moveset. Person 2:  is a better special sweeper, duh.
-T-Bolt -Shadow Ball -Calm Mind -Psychic (End example) See how useless that is? I may have gone ma bit too far with this, but I ghope it helps you understand that introducing something unneeded isn't appreciated generally. Sorry if I offended you, and if anyone thinks this post should be deleted, I'll go right ahead. |
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| Author: | superbird [ Sat Jun 21, 2008 5:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Palkia or Darkrai? |
My answer is neither, 'cause Dialga is better than both of 'em. |
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| Author: | Sapphirath [ Sat Jun 21, 2008 6:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Palkia or Darkrai? |
superbird wrote: My answer is neither, 'cause Dialga is better than both of 'em. Was this meant to be an act of defiance? Anyway, you're wrong. Dialga is slower than both of them It's weaker. But in reality I'd prefer Dialga cos control over time means you can't die.
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| Author: | Bushin [ Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Palkia or Darkrai? |
Sapphirath wrote: superbird wrote: My answer is neither, 'cause Dialga is better than both of 'em. Was this meant to be an act of defiance? Anyway, you're wrong. Dialga is slower than both of them It's weaker. But in reality I'd prefer Dialga cos control over time means you can't die. Scared... 0_0 You just said that he is wrong because Dialga is weaker,but actually prefer it? |
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| Author: | Sapphirath [ Sun Jul 06, 2008 2:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Palkia or Darkrai? |
No, I said in "reality". Meaning game aside, Dialga should be stronger. For battling in games, Dialga simply loses out because it's slower. But in reality, would you need Speed if you had control over time? You can just pause time, stroll straight up to the opponent, hit it a million times or so, walk back, unpause time and you win. I'm not contradicting myself because I'm talking about Dialga being weaker in games, but should be stronger in reality. Get it? Anyway, stating that Dialga is stronger then them in the game is kinda pointless when the topic's discussing about Palkia and Darkrai.
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| Author: | Skandrannon [ Sun Jul 06, 2008 7:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Palkia or Darkrai? |
If you're talking about the old Dialga vs. Palkia Time vs. Space thing, it all depends on who goes first. If Diagla gets the jump on Palkia, Diagla stops time, etc. If Palkia gets the jump on Dialga, Palkia simply wills Dialga out of existence. Now, given them both being evenly matched in that sense, it all comes to who can think faster. Based on their in-game stats, Palkia moves faster, but that doesn't really matter when it comes to simply thinking. Now, the next stat to look at would be their respective Special Attack stats. Special Attack is described as the Pokemon's ability to concentrate and focus non-physical attacks. This could also be interpreted as how strongly (?) they think. Then again, this doesn't help whatsoever, because their Special Attack stats are precisely the same. Where am I getting with all this? It is my belief that all of this boils down to their Special Defense, which are the only things that can be associated with thinking and non-physical attacking. I welcome anyone here to try and poke holes in my argument. =3 |
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| Author: | Sapphirath [ Sun Jul 06, 2008 8:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Palkia or Darkrai? |
In the game, both can take each other out easily, it all depends on what items and moves each of them use. But  is less useful than Palkia cos it's slower, it gets KOed by other Pokemon more easily than  , that's why it's weaker.
In reality however, I believe the power of time is absolute. can pause time, go back in time, go forward in time anything. That means it can't make mistakes as it can aviod them altogether. However, based on the anime, maybe , and  aren't affected by changes in time and space at all. They are "Gods" capable of traversing both Time and Space. If that is the case, since neither can affect each other with their main abilities, maybe they have to use something else to fight. The question is what? 
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| Author: | Skandrannon [ Sun Jul 06, 2008 9:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Palkia or Darkrai? |
But what you don't seem to understand is that, if pitted against eachother, Palkia would win in the "real world", because based on in-game stats, Palkia must be stronger, mentally, and therefore a faster thinker. That means that before Dialga is capable of even forming the thought to stop time or go backwards, Palkia has already willed him out of existence. |
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| Author: | koipen [ Mon Jul 07, 2008 2:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Palkia or Darkrai? |
Statwise, Palkia beats up Darkrai easily in anything, but speed. Palkia has so better Defensive capabilities (But who would use Palkia for that?). Ofcourse the speedstat is important in Ubers, as Darkrai is the fastest Uber after Deoxyxes and Mewtwo. But it doesn't wield the sky-high attacking stats of most Ubers, 135 base is like pseudo-legendaries. But the real thing in Darkrai is it's ability, by being fastest sleeper in the game [Correct me if I'm wrong], it can easily force switches. It can Dark Pulse for some serious damage, and Focus punch Blissey and other Darkrais. So I would say that Darkrai is more speedy and attacking oriented Uber, (And it has also the "miniuber" Total basestat, 600) while Palkia is Slow and Hardhitting Uber. (Unfortunately it can be outrunned by Kyogre in special side and movepool, mainly for Water Spout) Palkia is also still in base 100 speed, so it can outspeed many of slower Ubers (Groudon, Rayquaza, Kyogre etc.). But if we put these things together..: Darkrai ({darkrai}) +One of the fastest Ubers +Ability +Good special attack +Good sleepinducing move +Good STAB for ubers -Frail -The special attack isn't really the Uber level. Palkia ({palkia}) +Very good special attack +Sturdy +Good mixed movepool +Good typing +Still outspeeds many Ubers.. -..but loses to too many -Potent can be only used fully with Kyogre At together; Darkrai is Fast and Frail "Glasscannon" while Palkia is sturdy Ubersize Uber, which gets extra boost of the rain in Ubers. |
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| Author: | Sapphirath [ Mon Jul 07, 2008 2:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Palkia or Darkrai? |
Skandrannon wrote: But what you don't seem to understand is that, if pitted against eachother, Palkia would win in the "real world", because based on in-game stats, Palkia must be stronger, mentally, and therefore a faster thinker. That means that before Dialga is capable of even forming the thought to stop time or go backwards, Palkia has already willed him out of existence. Oh, pardon me. You can't be faster than the God of time, nor out-maneuver it. Speed, my friend, is entirely dependent on time, which has complete control over. Since it rules time, it should be able to see past, present and future without difficulty. Meaning, it knows what will do even before it even happens and can easily avoid them. And can't will out of existence because can just pause time in that dimension. Whatever was gonna do, it can't affect .
Assuming that is stronger than just because it's "stronger" in the game is totally out of the question. is fully capable of taking out in 1 hit in the game. No simple matter. And before you continue with your assumption, I've got to tell you this, the Pokemon in the game have their powers totally handicapped. It is thus very unfair to state who is stronger in reality based on stats in the game. can't control time in the game like it can in reality and neither can do the same with space. The full extend of their powers Isn't reflected in the game.
Nintendo made a big mistake making the power of Space on par with the power of Time. In reality, the power of time overrules everything. End of Story.
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| Author: | koipen [ Mon Jul 07, 2008 3:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Palkia or Darkrai? |
But you know that if Dialga goes Wild, Arceus in his mighty being, can come down from Hall of Origin and Destruct anything. Because Arceus is at the end of all the one god, that created others. And Arceus also has the power of all gods. It has power of Giratina, because how else he could create life of gods? He has power of Palkia, how else he could create anything if there's not anything? He has power of Dialga, how else he could create anything, if he doesn't have time to create anything? He is at the end almighty. So if Dialga gets too wild with Palkia (Like Ogre and Groud) , Arceus come and think everything out ofbeing, and starts again after 1000 years while resting in Hall of Origin, and thingkin how to create less powerful gods. (But because when he make Time out of exictense, 1000 years can be just 1 second) But yes, End of offtopic. If you want true compare and analyze of Darkrai and Palkia, without getting into stupid though, check last post of page one! |
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| Author: | Cactuar [ Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Palkia or Darkrai? |
Sapphirath wrote: Skandrannon wrote: But what you don't seem to understand is that, if pitted against eachother, Palkia would win in the "real world", because based on in-game stats, Palkia must be stronger, mentally, and therefore a faster thinker. That means that before Dialga is capable of even forming the thought to stop time or go backwards, Palkia has already willed him out of existence. Oh, pardon me. You can't be faster than the God of time, nor out-maneuver it. Speed, my friend, is entirely dependent on time, which has complete control over. Since it rules time, it should be able to see past, present and future without difficulty. Meaning, it knows what will do even before it even happens and can easily avoid them. And can't will out of existence because can just pause time in that dimension. Whatever was gonna do, it can't affect .
Assuming that is stronger than just because it's "stronger" in the game is totally out of the question. is fully capable of taking out in 1 hit in the game. No simple matter. And before you continue with your assumption, I've got to tell you this, the Pokemon in the game have their powers totally handicapped. It is thus very unfair to state who is stronger in reality based on stats in the game. can't control time in the game like it can in reality and neither can do the same with space. The full extend of their powers Isn't reflected in the game.
Nintendo made a big mistake making the power of Space on par with the power of Time. In reality, the power of time overrules everything. End of Story. Yeah, but Dialga can't stop time in a dimension Dialga isn't in. |
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| Author: | Volke [ Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Palkia or Darkrai? |
Sapphirath, I realize time is great, but what about space? It's just as powerful. Anyway, I think Koipen got it when it comes to the in-game question of Darkrai and Palkia. I'd say Darkrai has a larger chance of jumping the competition because of its Dark Void attack. Okay, so there are status absorbers and such, but you can predict and hit it on a switch. Also, once a Pokemon is asleep, Darkrai is free to set up a Calm Mind or Sub or even hit when they switch out. Palkia is just really strong (and fast). I think it's based more on preference as to who is better. Imagine if Palkia had Swift Swim...o.O |
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| Author: | Cactuar [ Mon Jul 14, 2008 6:38 pm ] |
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Yeah, if Palkia had swift swim, it would be unstobbable. I wish they'd do that in platinum. |
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