Eeveelutions are underated. I have never seen a jolteon or a vaporean on a team. Im not just saying this because My favorite pokemon is Jolteon.

Emilenko:
Slowbro - agreed, its good as a tank (amnesia and curse), a wide-ranging special sweeper (Surf, Ice Beam, Flamethrower, Psychic, Calm Mind), an okay physical sweeper (Shadow Ball, Brick Break).

Hypno is a defensive psychic with one flaw (major) - It has no recovery moves (I believe it dies 90% of the time while resting).

Magneton is used so much as a skarms counter. It ddoes suffer though, from a 4x weakness to the most common move on physical sweepers (EQ).

Lanturn isn't, its considered UU (sub-par for competetive play) because of its frail defenses.

Kecleon isn't used becausde it has no attack stat.


Swampert king: lol, there is no +HP nature. Otherwise, Blissey wouldn't be bold, it would be what your ludicolo is.

Blissey - No, its not practical in-game, but in the metagame, it's considered the best special wall.
Rayquaza is uber, and we all know that salamence is frail. However, it does get a few things that draggy doesn't, like better offensive stats, better physical movepool, etc.

Dugtrio is used, it has one of the best abilitie (Arena Trap), a good speed (same base speed as Alakazam, Sceptile).
Ludicolo - No comment.

Heartofdarkness - Are you an idiot?
~Jolteon has the best speed in the ou metagame (in fact, outside of ubers, ninjask, and electrode, it is the best).
~Vaporeon has base 140 HP, and can wish pass over 200 HP, along with acid armor and double team. Its slow enough to take a hit, allowing you to pass on wish recovery to the max
~Umbreon is an excellent Toxi-trapper. It is common.
~Espeon is sort of good, having defenses better than alakazam, but without the movepool.
~Flareon is a fire type, with an attack > SAtk, and without a good movepool, it is doomed to Flamethrower/Shadow Ball/Swift, and HPFighting or Return, holding a choice band.

thats right - the eevolutions are very popular in netbattle. except for flareon which is hardly ever used , and espeon which is used a little more commonly. i use a jolteon personally - substitute, baton pass, thunderbolt, hidden power (ice). vaporeon is awesome as well, particularly as a great answer to a strong water type. my suicune always gets walled against them

dugtrio is one awesome blissey counter actually. i forgot to mention it before. it negates thunderwave, has good attack with ezrthquake etc, and best of all it doesnt let blissey get away the only problem is if blissey has ice beam, or counter can sometimes get ya.

Peanut-Lover: Of course isn't now a very good choice for a team. However, I had one in RBY and (because Psychic-type was so strong in these games) the combination Hypnosis + Dream Eater worked and I could win PKMN Stadium. Now the use of these two moves is less efective because its lack of precission and the existence of dark-tipe, but before it wasn't a very bad option.

First things first, Ludicolo isn't underrated, it is possible the best Swampert counter who is a staple in OU, so Ludicolo see's alot of use.

And onto the set, there is no suck thing as a +HP nature, and anyway he wants a Calm nature. EV's wise he wants loads of Sp.Def, maximum HP and the rest thrown into Sp.Att. No need to worry about Defense because you don't keep this thing in against a physical attacker, it can't take a hit.

You also probably want Dive in there instead of Surf to give yourself a free healing turn, but thats just what I use also Giga Drain isn't wanted due to PP problems, whereas Rest/Ice Beam would go nicely there

one of my favourite pokemon on netbattle is

swift swim
@leftovers
rain dance
leech seed
surf
ice beam

cat remember EVs. it serves a variety of purposes - eg leech seed for snorlax/blissey, as well as rain dance when a switch is predicted and then sweep with surf and ice beam. i switch this in to swampert a lot, and they always assume it has a grass move. so they switch out to salamence (thinking grass = 4 times weak) and i do rain dance on the switch and OHKO mence with ice beam. its not fail proof, but it works a lot.

My thoughts on Kingdra: its actually an okay (note-I said okay, repeat, okay, not "excellent" or "good") pokemon, but its real weakness is against other water pokemon.

You enter a battle with a kingdra, you are fighting a Lanturn. You use rain dance, it predicts this, and uses thunder. Now you are stuck against a water type pokemon with a 100% accurate electric type move. You have only moves that do normal damage to it, or weakened damage to it, while it has an extremely powerfull normally damaging move.

Yes, all poison types are underrated, including Weezing, the second most common physical sponge, and Muk/Swalot are popular in UU. Yes, I said underused.
Gengar is commonly used as a special sweeper, and can kill its foe with destiny bond, which is quite nice.
Nidoking, I'll admit, has dropped a few notches. Then again, it has no "real" strtategy, aside from cb powerhouse.

The other poison types, like beedrill and dustox, really don't have a movepool/stats. They are slow that they need to take a hit, but too frail to do so.

Magicarp(sp?) is definately underrated, it may be weak but it's evolution and its availability makes Magicarp extremely useful (besides your opponent may keel over and die from laughing at your team of 6 Magicarp lol)

As for overrated, Mew was a major let down after all of the hype, its abilities weren't great and the stats were average...all in all Mew's only purpose was completing the Pokedex.

AVERAGE?!?!?!?!?!

Base 100 in every stat. Do you know what that is like?
http://www.psypokes.com/rs/maxstats.php
Ranks about 8th overall (between 8th and 20th, all with the same number)

STAB'ed Psychic, with T-bolt, Ice Beam, Flamethrower, Surf, Explosion, Substitute, Fous Punch, etc.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Mew's stats are low, but it's stats just didn't make it worth the trouble of tracking down a real way to catch it in game and weed out all of the fake stories...and since Mewtwo was so much easier to catch and its stats are around the same as Mew's it was just a let down. I still love Mew and almost always use it when I can, but it was overhyped which created a let down for me personally when I finally got one...

If you "hate" them, then they are over-rated to you.

This is getting to what Frost said - you don't know the meanings of over-rated and under-rated.

Over-rated - thought to highly of, but no pracical use
Under-rated - thought of as trash, but actually works better than others.

Garabato I totally agree with you on Scizor and Tyranitar. I have used Scizor many times on NB as my Baton Passer and as a Endure-Reversaler and it excels at both, it is better than Heracross at using Reversal after it gets a Agility in and being able to Baton Pass Defence and Attack is always a nice thing if your Baton Passing in the presence of a Physical Sweeper.

Crobat though I would say isn't exactly Under rated as he is to easily KO'd, as you already mantioned about weaknesses and he is weak to 4 of the most common types out there, Electric, Ice, Psychic and Rock.

Also, I wouldn't say Aero is over rated, he used to be but now is getting ss and less use because of the ever rising popularity of Dugtrio, CBGross and what I'm seeing a surprising amount now on NB is also Tauros as he is only weak to fighting, which is no more a staple type on every team.

Personally I agree with Calornae about Mew, he may have High stats alround but other pokemon excel in certain areas, like which would you rather use as a Physical Sweeper, Metagross or Mew? Mew may have the well rounded stats and endless movepool, but Metagross has the better essential stat, Attack, and he also learns enough physical moves tp sweep effectively without any worries.

exactly. with a given mew, youre probably gonna give it mainly special attacks or regular attacks only. to take any advantage of STAB its probably gonna be special attacks. and then what good is a base 100 attack stat? its only good to make sure you will do more damage to yourself when youre confused. it would be better to have a base 0 attack stat and add the 100 somewhere else - eg more special attack, more speed, or more defences.

i think tyranitar is a bit over-used, but i certainly wouldnt say its over-rated. it is a very good counter for a lot of common pokemon/stategies. aerodactly is definitely getting phased out a bit. (i used to use one for example.) there are too many pokemon that can take a hit. if it starts against a salamence, it loses. intimidate ensures that aero's rock slide wont OHKO mence, and after a dragon dance, mence is faster and can OHKO aero and try and keep sweeping. also, a weakness to bolt-beam plus surf, meteor mash, rockslide. at least it resists EQ.

man marowak os seriously underatted

Ok I know of a few more Pokemon

Underatted:Onix,Steelix,Sandshrew,Sandslash,Mareep,Magneton,Roselia,
Grimer,Muk.

Overatted:Mewtwo,Gengar,Charizard,Mew,Deoxys.

Many Pokemon are overatted excluding the legendaries.

Do you understand the meaning of under-rated? I get steelix, but onix?

Sandshrew, mareep and grimer havent even evolved, how are they good somehow?

Legendarys are overated, specially moltres.

overrated: Blissey *coughsubpunchgcough* Gardy, Aggron.

Underrated: Altaria, Swellow, Linoone.

blissey has an excellent counter to subpunch. SWITCH OUT!!! just because there is a way to beat a pokemon doesnt make them over-rated. i mean if that were the case, then the following pokemon are over-rated:

skarmory. *cough-thunderbolt,flamethrower-cough*
salamence, dragonite. *cough-icebeam-cough*
gyarados. *cough-thunderbolt-cough*
tyranitar. *cough-brickbreak-cough*
curselax. *cough-haze-cough*
jolteon. *cough-EQ-cough*
ninjask. *cough-roar,haze-cough*
metagross. *cough-fireblast-cough*
suicune. *cough-taunt-cough*

the point with pokemon is that its about teamwork. there is a good counter to every pokemon on your team. its up to you to try and deal with it. if you use a blissey you should also have a pokemon who is able to switch in when you predict that a subpuncher has entered the battle.

as for swellow, i agree. check out the moveset here:

http://www.psypokes.com/dex/psydex/277/movesets

very nice. the only problem of course is the def/spdef are so low.

but altaria, i think there is a reason its not used much. firstly, its stats leave a lot to be desired. its attack and special attack are really quite low, so its gonna have to depend more on its defences as well as moves like sing, haze. its kinda slow too. its nice that it can learn heal bell in XD. but there are way better flying/dragon types out there. i dont even need to mention their names. i think it is underused as opposed to underrated. there is a big difference. i think that to say "pokemon A is under-rated" is to say "pokemon B is usually preferred to pokemon A, but pokemon A can do a comparible job to pokemon B, and sometimes even better".

PS. 334 posts! go the don!! does anyone know what im talking about??

its true, not every pokemon is adapted to every situation. for example, you wouldnt put a curselax in the battle arena. it would probably just try and rest on every move so sleepy..... and yeah, blissey is hard to use in some 3v3 battles. having said that, blissey is extremely good in the battle pike (i think thats the right name - the one which looks like a seviper).




no, what i mean is if the opponent has a snorlax which has started cursing, you just switch something in which can take a hit, like a weezing, and use haze to remove the snorlax's stat-ups. sometimes you have to switch out even if you have used a lot of stat-up moves. picture this:

your salamence has used dragon dance twice and has OHKO'd a couple of your ememies, and then in comes a snorlax. you do a move and it knocks 30% of its health down and it does curse, leftovers restores some health. next move you only do 20% damage and he does curse again. and now youre starting to think "im never going to kill this thing, and soon it will be able to OHKO my whole team". so you get your salamence out while you can (surely it will be of use later on) and switch for a weezing. snorlax curses again. by this stage its easy to outrun it, and you use haze. even if snorlax tried to hit you on the switch, weezing can take some very big hits. you can haze and lose a little bit more if he tries to hit you again, and then you can just will-o-wisp it and do pain-split, leaving it a bit vulnerable and switch to something new. also, curselax will normally have to rest at some stage while it is cursing up, especially if you are hitting it special attacks. so when it goes to sleep its a good chance to switch to a hazer. (unless it has a chesto berry, which you will be able to predict if it doesnt have leftovers. the other problem could be sleep talk.)

and this is not just about netbattle. there are curselaxes in the battle frontier; you usually just see them at later stages....