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{deoxys} @ Lefties
Ability: Pressure
Nature: Calm/Bold(+Defense/Sp.Defense, -Attack/Attack)
EVs: 252 Defense/Sp. Defense, 6 HP
~Iron Defense
~Amnesia
~Recover
~Psychic/Toxic

Hm.. a Attack form of Deoxys with a Defensive set?? Strange.. Oh.. you know the stratagy!!

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Mon May 02, 2005 8:35 am
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That's still the standard set for a deoxys, no matter what form. And 20 base defenses? Not gonna work, sorry.


Mon May 02, 2005 8:38 am
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Here's a physical sweeping umbreon. OWNAGE. >.>;

{umbreon}@Lum
Ability: Synchronize
Nature: Adamant (- Special Attack, + Attack)
EVs: 252 Attack, 129 defense, 129 special defense
~Swagger
~Psych Up
~Shadow Ball
~Body Slam

Or, if you don't like that moveset, you could try this:

~Curse
~HP: Fight
~Shadow Ball
~Body Slam

Body Slam+Shadow Ball hits all types.

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EDIT: I forgot to post the test results! Ack! *slaps self* They all surprised a lot of people, especialy umbry and qwil. And I didn't see baton pass on far's learnable moves on netbattle, sorry. The endure flailer dragged down one pokemon with it when it fainted, though. One and a half, actually.


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Water Pokemon Master wrote:
That's still the standard set for a deoxys, no matter what form. And 20 base defenses? Not gonna work, sorry.


With these EVs and nature, its defense becomes 143.

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Here's a hopefully good one.

{granbull} @ Lefties | Adamant
EVs: 252 Attack; 252 Speed; 6 Defense
~T-Wave/Attract
~Rest
~Substitute
~Focus Punch

Yes, a SubPuncher. T-Wave to reduce Speed and hopefully cause full paralysis; or you could use Attract and have a higher chance, then Sub and Punch, and Rest to heal.

This set would also be good for an Aggron, and a Dragonite could do well with this set as well.

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steinerrecliner wrote:
Water Pokemon Master wrote:
That's still the standard set for a deoxys, no matter what form. And 20 base defenses? Not gonna work, sorry.


With these EVs and nature, its defense becomes 143.


Yes, but still, that's sucky defenses for a tank. A gegar could practicly OHKO if it goes first with shadowball.


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{houndoom}
Early Bird : +Spd -Sp. Atk @ Lefties/ Chesto
Sunny Day
Solar Beam
HP Flying (since he can't learn AA)
Fill (Rest most likely, if Flamethrower change to Flash Fire)

I am going to post this as a replacement for the HOFer one because the HOFer got totally thrashed on NetBattle and this didn't. Grass and Flying cover ALL his weaknesses, and Sunny Day will make the opponent think you are going to use a Fire attack, and will switch for a Swampert or Onix and face the wrath of Solarbeam! Then they will try Heracross and eat HP Flying 4x dust!

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I'm okay with WPM's Umbreon, but nothing too special there. Sneaky_Sneasel's Granbull isn't creative enough, but is pretty good nonetheless. As for tessa7338's Houndoom, seem kinda standard to me still. It's just HP Flying thrown into the moveset.

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What are the results of my Blastoise set?

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{muk} @ Lefties | Jolly (-Sp. Attack; +Speed)
EVs: 252 Speed; 252 Defense; 6 HP
~Dig
~Toxic
~Mean Look
~Protect

A Toxistalling Muk, instead of a P-Sweeper set? Yes, and it works too; I tested it on Netbattle, KOed 3, almost 4. Though Flying Types can shut it down. The EVs are specifically chosen to handle EQm since it'll have 400BP on Muk. (100 BP x weakness to Ground x Being in Dig).

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The problem is, since muk is weak against ground, if someone uses EQ when you did, it'll have 400 base power. Perhaps some extra EVs in defense and it'll be test ready.

BRAINSTORM

{hariyama}@Salac
Adamant (-Special Attack, +Attack)
252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
~Belly Drum
~Endure
~Reversal
~OMIT

Endure-a-flailer with a twist. Belly Drum maxes out attack, Reversal at 1 HP. Think of a STABed, max powered attack backed by 2976 attack. Ouchies. Belly drum might tip the hand though. To low HP might invite them to an extremespeed. But, It's a brainstorm.


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Isn't Adamant +Attack, not +Speed? And what's OMIT?

EDIT: Oh, ok. Anyway, I'd suggest HP Rock for Flying Types or HP Bug for Psychic Types, or even EQ or Brick Break.

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It started out adamant, then I changed it to a different nature, then changed it to adamant again.

OMIT=whatever/filler

[edit]I might put foresight there for ghosts, or maybe shadow ball.

[edit]What if you put acid armor on that muk?


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Sneaky_Sneasel wrote:
Honestly; it's kind of hard to get a creative moveset on a Miltank when there is no stardard movset in the "Standard Movset" thread.


tbh I think that no one expects a reversal miltank, so it's pretty creative imo, and it works. it should be taken into consideration, but it's up to you guys.


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Absol (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Flamethrower
- Quick Attack
- Snatch
- Thunder Wave / Filler

This is my anti-subrev/flail set. Flamethrower for those yanmas, heras, scizors, scythers, etc.
Quick attack when they're at 1HP
Snatch to take their last sub
and t-wave or whatever just for support.


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Sneaky_Sneasel wrote:
I was thinking, maybe we should have a vote to see which creative moveset in the Hall of Fame is the best.


That would really be a good idea, because some are similar movesets thrown on different pokemon.

And let's have one while i'm here (i usually put 2 but ive got mental block today)

{vaporeon} @ Lefties/ Quick Claw
Ability: Water Absorb
Nature: Timid (+Spd, -Atk)
Baton Pass
Any two or three from Curse/ Double Team/ Wish/ Acid Armor
Add an attack (Surf probably) if and only if you want it to fend for itself

A BPing Vaporeon. I thought this would be a good idea but it's nowhere.

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I'm pretty okay with the Absol and Hariyama. As an anti-flail set, the Absol is good, but I don't really think that set is gonna perform very well in normal combat. Reckon we should test that, WPM?

As for Hariyama, my first impression was "Not another Reversal/Endure set!" So while I feel that it works, I'm not that sure if it's creative enough, so let's just test it and wait and see if papersun approves of it.

Last but not least, we have the Vaporeon. What I feel is that the Eevee-lutions are so commonly used a B-Passers, the set isn't very special.

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Tested the muk. Worked well, and managed to toxistall half a team. Got nailed by an EQ while digging, though. I tried it with acid armor over dig, but it wasn't as effective. Overall, it was good, but not quite there. Real sorry about that, but it's just to weak against the oh so common EQ. The absol sounds iffy, though. Endure-a-flailers are hard to find, but I'll ask around. Cheers.

But wait, I'm gonna post a set in the 2v2 guide, look at it there. It'll have SS's muk in it. ;o


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I just found out this exact same same on my Muk can go on an Umbreon; and Umbreon has much higher Defenses, plus it's not weak to EQ. But then again, Umbreon's standard set is a Toxitrapping one, so it wouldn't be that creative. Oh and you're welcome on the double battle idea WPM. :wink:

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I'm gonna tweak it a bit and play around with the nature, and get back ASAP. Then it'll be hall of fame ready. That's what I meant by not quite ready or whatever I said. I'll try the umbreon too.


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Oh, alright, good luck on that.

BTW: Congrats on 900 posts.

EDIT: Now you have 901 :lol:

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Ahh, I have 900 posts?! Cool. 8)


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If you have any movesets that, after testing, you feel deserves to be in the Hall of Fame, remember to PM papersun about it and he'll be the final judge as to whether it should be added or not.

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NOBODY will see this coming.

{mr. mime} @ Lefties | Modest
EVs: 252 HP; 129 Defense; 129 Sp. Attack
~Sunny Day*/Rain Dance^
~Solarbeam*/Thunder^
~Psychic
~HP Dark

A Sweeping set on a Mr. Mime? OMG!!!21@!ONE!!!@1FIFTYNINE!

The * and ^ moves MUST go together, but it doesn't take much brainpower to figure that out. Psychic for STAB and HP Dark to take care of Ghosts. Sorry, but I can't find something to take care of Dark Types; hopefully, Mr. Mime's great Sp. Defense will make it live long enough.

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What about Calm Mind over HP: Dark?


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