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Creative Movesets *Announcement over DP: see first post*
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Neo_Matrix
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Sun Feb 20, 2005 7:10 am Posts: 765 Location: That place where burgers are made.
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 @ Lefties
Ability: Pressure
Nature: Calm/Bold(+Defense/Sp.Defense, -Attack/Attack)
EVs: 252 Defense/Sp. Defense, 6 HP
~Iron Defense
~Amnesia
~Recover
~Psychic/Toxic
Hm.. a Attack form of Deoxys with a Defensive set?? Strange.. Oh.. you know the stratagy!!
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Mon May 02, 2005 8:35 am |
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Benjamin
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Sat Dec 18, 2004 7:10 pm Posts: 740 Location: Houston, TX
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That's still the standard set for a deoxys, no matter what form. And 20 base defenses? Not gonna work, sorry.
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Mon May 02, 2005 8:38 am |
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Benjamin
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Sat Dec 18, 2004 7:10 pm Posts: 740 Location: Houston, TX
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Here's a physical sweeping umbreon. OWNAGE. >.>;
 @Lum
Ability: Synchronize
Nature: Adamant (- Special Attack, + Attack)
EVs: 252 Attack, 129 defense, 129 special defense
~Swagger
~Psych Up
~Shadow Ball
~Body Slam
Or, if you don't like that moveset, you could try this:
~Curse
~HP: Fight
~Shadow Ball
~Body Slam
Body Slam+Shadow Ball hits all types.
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EDIT: I forgot to post the test results! Ack! *slaps self* They all surprised a lot of people, especialy umbry and qwil. And I didn't see baton pass on far's learnable moves on netbattle, sorry. The endure flailer dragged down one pokemon with it when it fainted, though. One and a half, actually.
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Mon May 02, 2005 9:04 am |
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Neo_Matrix
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Sun Feb 20, 2005 7:10 am Posts: 765 Location: That place where burgers are made.
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Water Pokemon Master wrote: That's still the standard set for a deoxys, no matter what form. And 20 base defenses? Not gonna work, sorry.
With these EVs and nature, its defense becomes 143.
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Mon May 02, 2005 11:41 am |
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Sneaky Sneasel
Gym Leader
Joined: Sat Feb 12, 2005 5:21 pm Posts: 3128 Location: College
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Here's a hopefully good one.
 @ Lefties | Adamant
EVs: 252 Attack; 252 Speed; 6 Defense
~T-Wave/Attract
~Rest
~Substitute
~Focus Punch
Yes, a SubPuncher. T-Wave to reduce Speed and hopefully cause full paralysis; or you could use Attract and have a higher chance, then Sub and Punch, and Rest to heal.
This set would also be good for an Aggron, and a Dragonite could do well with this set as well.
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Mon May 02, 2005 1:48 pm |
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Benjamin
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Sat Dec 18, 2004 7:10 pm Posts: 740 Location: Houston, TX
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steinerrecliner wrote: Water Pokemon Master wrote: That's still the standard set for a deoxys, no matter what form. And 20 base defenses? Not gonna work, sorry.
With these EVs and nature, its defense becomes 143.
Yes, but still, that's sucky defenses for a tank. A gegar could practicly OHKO if it goes first with shadowball.
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Mon May 02, 2005 3:46 pm |
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tessa7338
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Sat Feb 19, 2005 11:47 pm Posts: 603 Location: Red Sands
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Early Bird : +Spd -Sp. Atk @ Lefties/ Chesto
Sunny Day
Solar Beam
HP Flying (since he can't learn AA)
Fill (Rest most likely, if Flamethrower change to Flash Fire)
I am going to post this as a replacement for the HOFer one because the HOFer got totally thrashed on NetBattle and this didn't. Grass and Flying cover ALL his weaknesses, and Sunny Day will make the opponent think you are going to use a Fire attack, and will switch for a Swampert or Onix and face the wrath of Solarbeam! Then they will try Heracross and eat HP Flying 4x dust!
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Mon May 02, 2005 6:57 pm |
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sN0wBaLL
Lite Four
Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2004 3:03 am Posts: 3827 Location: Singapore
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I'm okay with WPM's Umbreon, but nothing too special there. Sneaky_Sneasel's Granbull isn't creative enough, but is pretty good nonetheless. As for tessa7338's Houndoom, seem kinda standard to me still. It's just HP Flying thrown into the moveset.
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Tue May 03, 2005 2:21 am |
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Neo_Matrix
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Sun Feb 20, 2005 7:10 am Posts: 765 Location: That place where burgers are made.
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What are the results of my Blastoise set?
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Tue May 03, 2005 8:25 am |
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Sneaky Sneasel
Gym Leader
Joined: Sat Feb 12, 2005 5:21 pm Posts: 3128 Location: College
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 @ Lefties | Jolly (-Sp. Attack; +Speed)
EVs: 252 Speed; 252 Defense; 6 HP
~Dig
~Toxic
~Mean Look
~Protect
A Toxistalling Muk, instead of a P-Sweeper set? Yes, and it works too; I tested it on Netbattle, KOed 3, almost 4. Though Flying Types can shut it down. The EVs are specifically chosen to handle EQm since it'll have 400BP on Muk. (100 BP x weakness to Ground x Being in Dig).
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Tue May 03, 2005 9:05 am |
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Benjamin
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Sat Dec 18, 2004 7:10 pm Posts: 740 Location: Houston, TX
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The problem is, since muk is weak against ground, if someone uses EQ when you did, it'll have 400 base power. Perhaps some extra EVs in defense and it'll be test ready.
BRAINSTORM
 @Salac
Adamant (-Special Attack, +Attack)
252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
~Belly Drum
~Endure
~Reversal
~OMIT
Endure-a-flailer with a twist. Belly Drum maxes out attack, Reversal at 1 HP. Think of a STABed, max powered attack backed by 2976 attack. Ouchies. Belly drum might tip the hand though. To low HP might invite them to an extremespeed. But, It's a brainstorm.
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Tue May 03, 2005 1:10 pm |
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Sneaky Sneasel
Gym Leader
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Isn't Adamant +Attack, not +Speed? And what's OMIT?
EDIT: Oh, ok. Anyway, I'd suggest HP Rock for Flying Types or HP Bug for Psychic Types, or even EQ or Brick Break.
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Tue May 03, 2005 1:19 pm |
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Benjamin
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Sat Dec 18, 2004 7:10 pm Posts: 740 Location: Houston, TX
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It started out adamant, then I changed it to a different nature, then changed it to adamant again.
OMIT=whatever/filler
[edit]I might put foresight there for ghosts, or maybe shadow ball.
[edit]What if you put acid armor on that muk?
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Tue May 03, 2005 1:25 pm |
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Cless
Psychic Trainer
Joined: Sat Mar 12, 2005 8:01 am Posts: 71
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Sneaky_Sneasel wrote: Honestly; it's kind of hard to get a creative moveset on a Miltank when there is no stardard movset in the "Standard Movset" thread.
tbh I think that no one expects a reversal miltank, so it's pretty creative imo, and it works. it should be taken into consideration, but it's up to you guys.
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Wed May 04, 2005 11:03 am |
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gg uninstall
Bug Catcher
Joined: Sun Apr 10, 2005 8:57 pm Posts: 8
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Absol (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Flamethrower
- Quick Attack
- Snatch
- Thunder Wave / Filler
This is my anti-subrev/flail set. Flamethrower for those yanmas, heras, scizors, scythers, etc.
Quick attack when they're at 1HP
Snatch to take their last sub
and t-wave or whatever just for support.
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Wed May 04, 2005 9:17 pm |
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tessa7338
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Sat Feb 19, 2005 11:47 pm Posts: 603 Location: Red Sands
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Sneaky_Sneasel wrote: I was thinking, maybe we should have a vote to see which creative moveset in the Hall of Fame is the best.
That would really be a good idea, because some are similar movesets thrown on different pokemon.
And let's have one while i'm here (i usually put 2 but ive got mental block today)
 @ Lefties/ Quick Claw
Ability: Water Absorb
Nature: Timid (+Spd, -Atk)
Baton Pass
Any two or three from Curse/ Double Team/ Wish/ Acid Armor
Add an attack (Surf probably) if and only if you want it to fend for itself
A BPing Vaporeon. I thought this would be a good idea but it's nowhere.
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Wed May 04, 2005 9:34 pm |
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sN0wBaLL
Lite Four
Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2004 3:03 am Posts: 3827 Location: Singapore
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I'm pretty okay with the Absol and Hariyama. As an anti-flail set, the Absol is good, but I don't really think that set is gonna perform very well in normal combat. Reckon we should test that, WPM?
As for Hariyama, my first impression was "Not another Reversal/Endure set!" So while I feel that it works, I'm not that sure if it's creative enough, so let's just test it and wait and see if papersun approves of it.
Last but not least, we have the Vaporeon. What I feel is that the Eevee-lutions are so commonly used a B-Passers, the set isn't very special.
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Thu May 05, 2005 12:06 am |
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Benjamin
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Sat Dec 18, 2004 7:10 pm Posts: 740 Location: Houston, TX
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Tested the muk. Worked well, and managed to toxistall half a team. Got nailed by an EQ while digging, though. I tried it with acid armor over dig, but it wasn't as effective. Overall, it was good, but not quite there. Real sorry about that, but it's just to weak against the oh so common EQ. The absol sounds iffy, though. Endure-a-flailers are hard to find, but I'll ask around. Cheers.
But wait, I'm gonna post a set in the 2v2 guide, look at it there. It'll have SS's muk in it. ;o
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Thu May 05, 2005 1:05 pm |
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Sneaky Sneasel
Gym Leader
Joined: Sat Feb 12, 2005 5:21 pm Posts: 3128 Location: College
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I just found out this exact same same on my Muk can go on an Umbreon; and Umbreon has much higher Defenses, plus it's not weak to EQ. But then again, Umbreon's standard set is a Toxitrapping one, so it wouldn't be that creative. Oh and you're welcome on the double battle idea WPM. 
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Thu May 05, 2005 1:31 pm |
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Benjamin
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Sat Dec 18, 2004 7:10 pm Posts: 740 Location: Houston, TX
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I'm gonna tweak it a bit and play around with the nature, and get back ASAP. Then it'll be hall of fame ready. That's what I meant by not quite ready or whatever I said. I'll try the umbreon too.
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Thu May 05, 2005 1:32 pm |
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Sneaky Sneasel
Gym Leader
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Oh, alright, good luck on that.
BTW: Congrats on 900 posts.
EDIT: Now you have 901 
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Thu May 05, 2005 1:35 pm |
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Benjamin
Pokemon Ranger
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Ahh, I have 900 posts?! Cool. 8)
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Thu May 05, 2005 1:36 pm |
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sN0wBaLL
Lite Four
Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2004 3:03 am Posts: 3827 Location: Singapore
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If you have any movesets that, after testing, you feel deserves to be in the Hall of Fame, remember to PM papersun about it and he'll be the final judge as to whether it should be added or not.
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Fri May 06, 2005 1:56 am |
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Sneaky Sneasel
Gym Leader
Joined: Sat Feb 12, 2005 5:21 pm Posts: 3128 Location: College
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NOBODY will see this coming.
 @ Lefties | Modest
EVs: 252 HP; 129 Defense; 129 Sp. Attack
~Sunny Day*/Rain Dance^
~Solarbeam*/Thunder^
~Psychic
~HP Dark
A Sweeping set on a Mr. Mime? OMG!!!21@!ONE!!!@1FIFTYNINE!
The * and ^ moves MUST go together, but it doesn't take much brainpower to figure that out. Psychic for STAB and HP Dark to take care of Ghosts. Sorry, but I can't find something to take care of Dark Types; hopefully, Mr. Mime's great Sp. Defense will make it live long enough.
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Sat May 07, 2005 10:52 am |
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Benjamin
Pokemon Ranger
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What about Calm Mind over HP: Dark?
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Sat May 07, 2005 10:55 am |
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