Just a quick clear up for my team, its officially pokemon immune to ground moves (flying pokemon + pokemon that know levitate)

2nd, I thought the person who beat all of of us first would be champion.... (then again if were doing the tournament, he would have techinacacally beat all of us...)

3rd, don't you challenge gym leaders for their places? So would you have to do that for the champion?

4th, working on teams right now, maybe 3 weeks or less to get a team functioning?

I'm writing this stuff down as I think of it, so if something seems out of place, forgive me.


If your champion is determined though this tournament as well, you'll need to have 13 people, not 12 ;p

Also, I don't think people should be force to challenge the gym leaders in a certain order. That would result in Leader 1 facing a lot more people than Leader 8. Let them go through it in any order they choose. The E4 can be in a certain order, but mix it up each time (like, if for instance the order for one person would be A, B, C, D; make it D, A, B, C for the next challenger.)

Just to be clear, if someone were to beat all 13 people, what would happen? Would they become champion, thus demoting someone?

Speaking of the tournament, how would it be set up? Would there be a standard 6v6 thing not necessarily using gym teams, or would you have to use your set team. I ask because I know acouple of people aren't using singles, 6v6 and that would be a problem. Maybe let each pairing decide how to determine the winner? damnit, ninja'd by shina

The order for batleing the E4 should be the same for each challenger, and, like in the games, you would be forced to redo the whole thing (E4) if you lose. As for the leaders, the tournament should determine the 'recomended order' IE: weakest to strongest. However, each challenger could skip around as they chose. For example, someone with a Blissey might want to save Chef's gym for last due the lack of special attackers on his team.

i'm loving how this is all playing out. there are 2 gyms i would hate to be paired up with...

You know, given the site's traffic and the time it takes it might just be easier and more active if we just do away with the e4. Instead just have the challengers beat all 8 or 8 total gyms and receive a special "champion" psypoke title. Just setting up to do 12/13 online battles will take forever and E4 members would see little action. Or adding an E4 later on if the gyms are a huge success.

Not saying we should change last second, but just a thought.

hm that seems like a very reasonable suggestion, tho if a subforum can be made it would simplify everything allowing ease of coordination

You know, I think Chef's idea is probably best. Wait a week for the last people to sign up, and then by Sunday next week start the tournament, with the top 8 getting the Gym Leader status. You can consider that an executive order.

I agree with that except for the time frame... Still finishing up my exams and classes for the year so there is no way all of mine will be ready in time

Ummm. Is it too late to sign up? *

Theme - Haven't thought this thru yet. Legends and Starters?*

Type - Single. I'm best at it.

Primary Team - My dream team atlast!

- Flame Plate

- none**

- Mind Plate

- none**

- quick claw

- none**

* Please tell me if I can become a leader or not, and if the theme I have is acceptable. If i am accepted, please PM me. Thanks.

** I am trying to get items for them. I will be editing this post when I get items for them.

I got my DS and I'm in, but I till haven't worked out my team.

Ho-oh and Lugia are banned from competitive play.

Sorry I wasn't here for a while, guys, but I'll try to answer everyone's questions now.

@MasterChef: I do like your idea of only 8 Leaders and a special thing for whoever beats all of them, but I don't feel that would gel to well with everyone who's volunteered here. Think of it this way; I myself have trained 6 different teams of Pokemon for my Gym alone, all of which fit the theme (no wild cards). I would hate to face one of our "better" leaders and be knocked out in the first round with not even the consolation of being a lower-level Leader. Plus, I'm in charge of all of this so that would make it even more difficult, but that's beside the point. Basically, I think it'll be much less stressful for all of us if we maintain the original structure.

@Shina: My plan for the tourney was this: if you're paired with a Double Battle Leader (they should notify you before hand), then you should prepare yourself for a double battle. I've had to Double Battle all of you guys with a team that certainly isn't designed for Double Battles, and that's just something you'll have to deal with.

@Legendary Tamer: Ubers are banned which means basically all Legends, Wobbufett, and Garchomp. Plus, we already have a Starter Gym. Come up with a different theme and read the original post for rules and themes that are unavailable to you (already taken). And do it fast so you can test battle me.

@Lv. 100 Sceptile: If you want to participate now, you have to submit your application and battle me fast, because I'm closing out signups in a little more than a week.

Thanks for all of your input and support, everyone. We're reaching the end here, so just keep checking in every so often for updates of anything that needs covered.

If tournament battles ends up being poorly balanced due to the theme interaction (a Water team vs a Fire team for example), there's always the option of potential gym leaders battling an arbiter who can determine which team is better overall.


When making a gym team, choose the theme first, then make a team of pokemon that fit the team.

Seeing how there is 10 verified leaders, it might actually be better to have 10 gyms. Thus if someone leaves or goes afk long-term the whole system isn't shut down as they'd only need to beat 8. Though this might make it easy for challengers to "skip" the harder gyms.

You just gave me an idea, Chef! How bout this, we have all Gym Leaders (as many as we have participating in the tourney) and one Grand Champion of it all. If you beat 8 Gyms you get a special thing in your sig (ribbon, bronze trophy/medal, etc.). If you beat all of the gyms, you get something better (silver trophy/medal, better ribbon), and if you go all the way you get like a gold trophy/medal and the option of becoming the new Champion/Leader. That way, we can encourage challengers to face all of us anyway, and they won't be able to "skip" Gyms without accepting they won't get the higher awards. How does that sound?

Well darn. Anyway, I guess I could use some of my backup team.

Theme - Could I be Diversity? I don't see one yet.

Type - Single. I'm still best at it.

Primary Team -

- Flame Plate

- none**

- Mind Plate

- none**

- quick claw

- none**

Is this team alright?

Does the champion need to use a theme team as well? Or, as in the games, can they use a standard competitive team?


Diversity is not a gym theme. If it were, then every competitive team would be a gym team. If you don't know what a valid theme is, look at the claimed gym themes. (With 17 types, not to mention weather and others, there must be unclaimed themes).

Sounds good! Though I hope we can get the trophies in the left margin with the avatar etc. so it can't be copied/pasted. It also feels more official that way.

@Sion9: I guess we can leave that up to the Champion once they get there, but I think it would be interesting if they keep the same theme as they applied with. That may raise an issue if, for instance, a monotype team gets to the top. That's the Champions choice, though. This is the only reason I've encouraged people to come up with non-monotype teams. It's whatevs, though.

@Legendary Tamer: If you really want to use legends or something, why not go with non-Uber legends? Like the birds, dogs, golems, Lake Trio, Jirachi, Land Shaymin, Manaphy, Latias w/o Soul Dew and whatever others. Just a thought.

that sounds like a very good idea, and we shouldn't have a champ to start off with, that would mean that one of us gets knocked out... also after tomorrow all of my exams will be over so i will be able to fully focus on this.

Latias -dew just recently became uber again :/

I don't quite understand what you mean here, so let me clarify. When we have our tournament, the winner will be the Champion. Everyone else will just be Gym Leaders. No one will be eliminated from the League as of right now. I'm sure people will come and go as time goes by, but for now we're all in it to win it.

Also, I just had another thought. For every round of tournaments we have, the losers will be the next set of leaders people must face. For example, say we have 12 people in round 1; the 6 who lose that match will be the first 6 challengers take on in the order they choose. Then they will move on to the next 3 and so on and so forth. They can also choose to skip someone every so often to get that bronze medal or whatever we decide upon. This was just hypothetical, so don't take into account those actual numbers. Anyone object to this or have a better alternative?

@MasterChef: Really? That surprises me. Oh well. That was just a suggestion.

We should maintain a "Hall of Fame" thread that has the current badge listings. Any challenger with at least 1 badge is listed. If we have to put badges in signatures, they should link to the list (at least the real ones will).


If running the battle league would be easier with a program, let me know. I can make anything up to and including a server / client program with real-time rankings (but someone would have to keep the server running). If you let me know soon I can finish it before the tournament is over.

Well, with my team, anyone have suggestions?

I think all 8+ gyms should be open to all right from the start, this would allow everyone to battle and keep the "weaker" gym leaders from being overwhelmed. Also as you posted before, luck may knock the better players out in the 1st round, so skill level may not be as high for the latter gyms unless we have a very extensive tourney.

Yeah, I don't understand latias w/o dew being uber either, same with latios, they'd be popular but by no means overpowered or worse than threats like Jirachi, Salamence, and Scizor.