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Spoinkable
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Lawence Codye wrote: Darkrai-follower wrote: The new issue of Nintendo Dream has been released and tells us about the ability of Zoroak-illusion.
The Pokemon with 'Illusion' will appear to have the name and appearence of the pokemon second in your party. This takes effect when The pokemon with the ability is sent into battle.
This ability sounds like all Bark & absolutely no Bite to me, really, this is the best they could conjour up for it?...
Gallade Roxas wrote: I'm just saying, it seems a bit like cheating and I imagine that people will start abusing the heck out of it.
No way. This is brilliant and nowhere close to cheating.
It makes Zoroark the perfect lead! Wait, no, I take that back. He'd be the perfect lead if he could learn a field effect move (Spikes, Stealth Rock, etc.).
Seriously, the first move in a match is one of THE most important to set up your flow for the duration of the battle.
If your first choice is wrong (and it most likely would always be against Zoroark) you'll lose a significant advantage.
That being said, you'll only lose the first-turn advantage.
Not to mention, most of what players do in the first turn is try to out-predict, usually ending up in a switch if they feel they're about to get shafted.
IF Zoroark's illusion Does force a switch, it's probably not going to be overly advantageous to Zoroark's trainer, because Dark isn't an exceptional type. (Sorry, Dark-lovers.)
Bottom line: he'll be a good choice for a lead, maybe a "panic button" later in the game. But like Frost said, his ruse will only last one turn.
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Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:30 pm |
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WirelessBrain
Pokemon Ranger
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Gallade Roxas wrote: I'm just saying, it seems a bit like cheating and I imagine that people will start abusing the heck out of it.
I really don't think of it this way. It's more strategy and anyway, after a few supereffective dark moves it could seem pretty obvious that, iunno, for example, a alakazam using all dark-type moves.
But as frost said, it will be a one-turn advantage but maybe that's all you need? I do hope that zoroak isn't a one-trick pony though and has other good points about it other than it's ability.
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Thu Jun 24, 2010 5:14 am |
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Spoinkable
Pokemon Ranger
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Darkrai-follower wrote: Gallade Roxas wrote: I'm just saying, it seems a bit like cheating and I imagine that people will start abusing the heck out of it.
I really don't think of it this way. It's more strategy and anyway, after a few supereffective dark moves it could seem pretty obvious that, iunno, for example, a alakazam using all dark-type moves.
But as frost said, it will be a one-turn advantage but maybe that's all you need? I do hope that zoroak isn't a one-trick pony though and has other good points about it other than it's ability.
Judging from the fact that it has a move which boosts Attack and Accuracy, my guess is it'll be pretty flippin good.
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Thu Jun 24, 2010 7:40 am |
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WirelessBrain
Pokemon Ranger
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Oh i didn't know much about the moves, just looked. Yeah you're right, maybe it'll be valuble in competetive battling.
I just hope it's not considered Uber or that people frown upon its use on wifi battling.
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Thu Jun 24, 2010 7:46 am |
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Lawence Codye
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I just hope that it's ability is used on it before the opponent even gets a look at it cause if not then everything fall to **** ...I mean come on, I bet it will be released from the pokeball & then Illusion will kick in right in front of the opponent's eyes which would make this ability utter crap imo, I hope it uses Illusion before it is even released from it's pokeball cause if not then it's a no-go, all bark & no bite...
As far as the attack is concern, it is centuries better then Illusion no matter how you look at it meaning I actually like the attack...
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Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:29 am |
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WirelessBrain
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SORRY, did i not say?Must've failed to mention...
It automatically takes effect and it appears that the second pokemon in your team is being sent out and not zoroak. There's no, 'zoroak transformed' buisness. Just 'GO! [second pokemon]' XD
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Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:35 am |
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Lawence Codye
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Darkrai-follower wrote: SORRY, did i not say?Must've failed to mention...
It automatically takes effect and it appears that the second pokemon in your team is being sent out and not zoroak. There's no, 'zoroak transformed' buisness. Just 'GO! [second pokemon]' XD
Probably the source forgot to mention it, not you so yes but no...Good, this ability is at least a little bite now, I can accept it as a usable ability now, whew that was close...
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Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:41 am |
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WirelessBrain
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Ahaa it WOULD be a rubbish ability if it actually made clear its a zoroak and transformed...
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Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:54 am |
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Lawence Codye
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Darkrai-follower wrote: Ahaa it WOULD be a rubbish ability if it actually made clear its a zoroak and transformed...
Well see, that's the message I got from the page on the event that explained how to get it ingame available via pokemon's japanese site so...
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Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:04 am |
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WirelessBrain
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Huh? You mean when you're capturing/encountering Zoroak the site makes out that it appears as zoroak to begin with and then transforms? I think i might take a look at that...
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Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:17 am |
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Lawence Codye
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Darkrai-follower wrote: Huh? You mean when you're capturing/encountering Zoroak the site makes out that it appears as zoroak to begin with and then transforms? I think i might take a look at that...
EDIT : Oh, nevermind, it's regular Entei & it shows Entei transforming back to Zoroark...hah...
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Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:40 am |
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rex09
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Frost wrote: And rex, it's already been confirmed that Zoroark will shed its morphed form under certain circumstances. Most likely its health being low, although I wouldn't rule out it revealing its true form after being hit since you'd know what was up by that point anyway.
i was thinking that, but wasn't sure; the only thing i knew about the transforming back was that during the event w/the legendary dogs, it sometimes transforms back and that's when you can catch it. i wasn't sure if there was a way for it to turn back during a battle against trainers (tho it's kinda common sense that it would, looking back on that thought)
this means we're probably gonna start seeing gimmick-teams ({smeargle}{ditto} and zoroark filled, i'll bet) that pretty much just showcase illusion. wonder what other interesting stuff they have tucked away....
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Thu Jun 24, 2010 3:47 pm |
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Ryanh181
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I'm thinking Zoroark's ability is just like a free substitute. Like, if he could learn Nasty Plot, have a Houndoom or something second in line, and just use nasty plot like 2 or 3 times then Baton Pass or something. I don't know.
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Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:00 am |
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WirelessBrain
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Wow, i never really thought of it that way before. Maybe it could be a huge use in competetive battling...
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Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:24 am |
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Ryanh181
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According to Bulbapedia, 4 new pokemon have been revealed, but they are not confirmed to be legit. t2 of them look like the second evolutions for the grass and water starters. See here http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:BW_anime.png .
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Sun Jun 27, 2010 10:40 am |
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Lawence Codye
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Aww man, does this looks fake too! But maybe this time it actually might not be but getting back to why I call fake on that, why show only 2 of the starters 1st stage evolutions & not all 3 of them?...this being said I can't wait til the 5th Gen portion of the anime premieres so I can identify the trainers ages...
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Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:06 am |
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WirelessBrain
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The 'second evolution' of the water starter looks a bit cat-like...
And i actually hope that Rocket are back in the B/W games...with Jessee and James. I doubt it but it'd be good to see them again since we didn't see them since Yellow.
The 'second evolution' of the grass starter just looks like a larger version than the first.
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Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:09 am |
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Skulluser1
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Everyone the actual pictures ov the three starters are on lolstop at the very top of the page
left to right:
left: grass
middle: fire
right: water
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Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:13 am |
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WirelessBrain
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Skulluser1 wrote: Everyone the actual pictures ov the three starters are on HELL.net at the very top of the page
left to right:
left: grass
middle: fire
right: water
The starters were announced long ago, we're discussing the possibility of the looks of the second evolutions of these starters judging on the link a few posts up...
For the newly announced pokemon from Black and White ckeck the Psydex...http://www.psypokes.com/dex/index.php
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And people: Psypoke main site wrote: Pokemon Black and White now have a concrete release date of September 18th, 2010 in Japan.
Any guesses on US and UK release dates?And it came as a surprise, i would've thought after Christmas at the least but better earlier than later.
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Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:26 am |
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Lawence Codye
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I am guessing that it will come out in the US between March & May of 2011 & for the UK date, I don't know...same as the last games?...
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Sun Jun 27, 2010 12:39 pm |
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WirelessBrain
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Ah yeah i s'pose. I thought the others came out a bit later than september in Japan. Maybe i'm mistaken, but, chances are i'm going to buy White (Originally Black but the White legendary looks better imo) So i cant wait until They come out.
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Sun Jun 27, 2010 12:49 pm |
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Lawence Codye
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Darkrai-follower wrote: Ah yeah i s'pose. I thought the others came out a bit later than september in Japan. Maybe i'm mistaken, but, chances are i'm going to buy White (Originally Black but the White legendary looks better imo) So i cant wait until They come out.
Probably, I don't know...I just though that maybe this time they will stay on a fixed schedule which some people have done in the past with other game projects...
I was getting the White Verison up until I saw that my more favored Reshiram was in fact in the Black Version so now I am getting the Black Version unless I hear that you can get both of them in either game at different or the same point in your adventure or if the exclusives(which I care about more) for White is better then the exclusives for Black...
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Sun Jun 27, 2010 12:59 pm |
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WirelessBrain
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I favour Zekrom more probably because of the fact it is part-electric as well as Dragon. But yeah, if you can get both in one game then i'll probably go for Black, then again, there's still the possibility of a third game in the series. Actually i'm almost sure of it. So i will probably wait for that, i wish i'd have baught Platinum now looking back at the fact there was no battle frontier on pearl...So as good as B/W looks, the third installment will probably be better.
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Sun Jun 27, 2010 1:22 pm |
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Lawence Codye
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I don't see why there wouldn't be a 3rd game...I just like to have every version in my collection so that I don't have to relay on other people just to complete something but then, even with all the games, sometimes you still end up doing this which is quite depressing...
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Sun Jun 27, 2010 1:26 pm |
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WirelessBrain
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I personally think it's better to only own one game and use wifi to get what you want. You interact with other players (which is good considering i dont battle much) and both partys get the thing they want. It'll be a bit lonely owning all three and not trading for items,pokemon much...I'm not assuming you don't but that's what i'd do if i owned all 3 XD
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Sun Jun 27, 2010 1:43 pm |
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